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sari/lengha length questions

topic posted Mon, May 23, 2005 - 11:44 AM by  Rhyolyn
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Hey Ajay,
All of my saris and lenghas are too long. You mentioned cutting a sari to a shorter fabric width in another post. Is that common? What length to women usually wear the sari? Should it cover the feet? or Drag on the groud a little? In many Hindi films I see women wearing very long saris and lenghas that are very long and have to be held up when they walk. Is this a film effect? or the way people wear them in India? Is the length worn shorter for everyday wear than for formal wear? And finally, do Indian ladies usually wear very tall shoes when they wear saris and lenghas?

Thanks,
Rhyolyn
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  • Re: sari/lengha length questions

    Tue, May 24, 2005 - 7:51 AM
    Hello Rhyolyn

    Acutally i must discribe you about various kind of sari .

    1. Normal sari.. is always 5 and half meter long most of time 80 cm blouse are attached extra with sari.. or have extra fabric of 80 cm.. if its attached with sari the length of sari will be 6.30 meter.. you can cut 80 cm for blouse.. but if you are big women and 80 cm meter is not enough for making blouse for you.. better you make blouse with other fabric you can buy matching silk,cotton or satin.. depend on sari fabric..... remeber if you need 1 meter for blouse and you will cut from sari fabric 6.30 sari will be remain only 5.30 cm.. and for regular womens who have waist arround 36 to 38. sari need 5.30 cm.. but if your waist is more then 40 and you cut fabric 1 meter the wrap will be short.. Normally sari worn one wrap on your waist and make 8-10 pleads then drag on your shoulder.. but if your waist is big.. you will only remain sari for making pleads 5-6 .. so its always better you keep your sari fabric long.. specially if you are big women..
    this regular sari.. worn till feet length or little below to ankle length.. this is orignally called sari....this always worn with cotton petticoate

    2. the short sari you look in bollywood movies.. is always with lehenga choli.. its called Odani or Bandhani.. its only 2 and half meter shown.. becuase.. lenegha is fancy embroidred.. not like regular cotton patticoate.. so you need to show design and zardsoi work on your lehenga and choli.. so odani is short sari.. you just need to wrap half on your waist and drag on your shoulders.. its not need to make pleads on waist like regular sari...

    3. Deadh pati sari.. is also 2 and half meter sari.. its worn same like odani.. but this is popular in tribe area or in villages.. who dont wear fancy clothings.. they buy regular fabric of georgette or polyster..with cotton printed lenega or cotton pettiocate.. Remeber.. they wearing it regular so they dont buy fancy. most of time its plain.. sari fabric..

    Regular 5 and half meter sari is fancy sari. which give you more fancy indian look.. its not very comfortable for pepoles who do hard work in farm.. so tribal pepoles who working in farm house they wear only plain odani/daid patti sari.. which do not wrape your body fully so its easy to care and comfortable..

    Remeber in india.. every 200 km.. styles of clothings change and most of state wear sari in diffrenet ways in tribal area... but most poplar sari which worn regular in india.. is 5.30 meter sari..
    here one more thing i want to tell you... bridal sari are always 2 and half meter long.. becuase its worn with lehenga choli....

    if you hear word bandani.. its normally used for tie dye sari.. but many pepoles call odani also bandani.. but bandani is only tie dye sari...

    lehenga choli odani worn till drag on floor..
    if you still have question will like to discribe more
    Ajay
    • Re: sari/lengha length questions

      Tue, May 24, 2005 - 8:49 AM
      There is also an 8 meter sari, you can see it in my photo album. The picture is not very clear unfortunately:
      louvre.tribe.net/tribe/upl...071691ac5d
      • Re: Fishtail sari

        Tue, May 24, 2005 - 9:10 AM
        Women and men wear saris in many different ways; usually relating to the functions they perform in society. For example, people that need to be highly mobile, drape saris into a pants-style. The "fishtail sari" is so called because the most ornate portion, or "pallav" hangs down in the front, like a fish's tail. This sari is especially useful for dancers, who generally need full leg movement in the course of dancing an Indian style. But the drape can be seen on a variety of men and women in pre-1600 pictures.

        The word "sari" or "saree" means "draped garment", so generally any kind of un-sewn garment may be termed a sari. The verb for putting on a sari is usually either "wrapping", "tying" or "draping". They may be made of any type of fabric, but cottons, silks and synthetics are the most common. I find that the smoother, slipperier or silkier the texture of the fabric, the harder it is to drape it and keep it in place. Thus, rough spun cottons and thick silks are the easiest. Chiffon, light silks, and most especially the typical synthetics (such as rayon or acetate), are the hardest. Highly stiff fabrics, such as metal-embellished silk brocades take some adjustment time to conform to your shape. With normal wearing they will flatten out, but at first the drape will appear "puffy" and your hips will look larger than normal. The weight of the fabric will cause it to flatten out, after a while and body heat will press it into your shape, making it easier to drape. The type of fabric and the type of decoration applied to the sari tells much about the wealth, status, caste and place of origin of the wearer. I've written, and continue to write pages about sari textiles, and textile embellishment techniques - it's a favorite area of study for me. Please check out my pages on sari textiles and block printing for more information.

        This demonstration is written in details a wide variety of modern and ancient drapes, including the only source I have found for the fishtail sari. I have used her instructions for a baseline, and enhanced them with my own personal experience and digital images of draping this style. All pictures and text.

        Just can't get enough? If you like these instructions,

        Get fabric Saris can be found on www.indiabazaar.net. Plain fabric can be embellished with dying and printing techniques to imitate historic textile samples. The most important part is that the sari must be in the vicinity of 6 yards. Most modern saris are 6-yard saris, so buying a regular sari should be fine.
        Measure fabric for the fishtail For the fishtail, you will need to reserve a length of fabric on one side that will eventually form this embellishment. Using the fancy (pallav) end, measure a length that is approximately as long as the distance from your waist to the ground. If you will be particularly active today, dancing or walking long distances quickly counts, make the pallav a little shorter, so it is not in your way. I generally tie mine about 6 inches shorter before giving a dance performance.
        Find the adjusted center point This is not the actual center of the fabric, but the center, minus the fishtail segment you have reserved.usually find the center of the fabric by putting the non-fishtail end next to the measured endpoint of the pallav, so that the wrong sides are touching. line them up so you are inside the sari. pull along the two ends to align the center so it is behind your back. now holding the sari with the pallav/fishtail end in your right hand, and the plain end in your left. The sari goes behind your back, with the center point in the center of your back, and the right side of the fabric facing away from you. Do not need to keep track of the ends of the fabric for this step.
        Tie a waistband at center Take the two sides of the sari in your hands, near your waist, leaving enough between your hand to encircle your waist. Pull and squish them so that you have two folded ties in front of you, about 6" long. Tie the two portions together around your waist, forming a waistband. usually use a square knot (the knot that won't slip!) - right over left, left over right. The important thing is that the tie is comfortable and not confining, but also not so loose that the sari will fall off. This tie supports the rest of the draping, and it generally isn't untied until you take the sari off. Usually the waist of my sari sags a bit low over my hips.
        Put left side section of fabric under left leg Take the section of fabric on the left side, the non-pallav section. Put it between your legs from front to back. Take it from behind and pull it to the front of your body, around your left side. You will now have formed a tube of fabric around the left leg.
        Pleat left end Pleat the left end that you have just wrapped around your leg. You are pleating along the short/raw edge. usually support the pleats in right hand and use the left to guide and untangle the fabric while pleat. support the fabric with right hand, holding one end between index and middle finger, and the other end between ring finger and thumb, adjusting after every layer. The pleats look best when they are somewhat regular, and somewhat in the vicinity of 4-6 inches.
        Tuck pleated end into front of waistband Tuck the end you have just pleated into the waistband. You can adjust how much you have tucked to get a wider or tighter leg on the left side. It should swag comfortably, with a fairly tight, but not confining lower leg, and a baggy hip. If it's too tight, walking will pull it out. If it's too loose, you'll end up tripping over the edge of the leg. In the case of thick, stiff materials, it may take an hour or so of wear to get it adjusted to your body on the first wearing.
        Tuck upper border of sari around left side of waist Tuck the upper border of the left sari leg around the left side of your body. Not much is necessary - 3 or so inches will suffice. Tuck it around to the center of your back. More can be tucked for a trimmer leg. Too much will make walking difficult.
        Wrap right side around right leg Wrap the right side of the sari around the right leg in the same manner as the left leg was wrapped - front to back, around the right side of body
        Pleat right end and pull pleats to end of the fishtail Pleat the right end of the fabric, as you did the left. You will be pleating the end of the pallav. After pleating, align the pleats so they continue evenly down the pallav of the fabric, and hold them at the spot that you measured for the fishtail. You can re-measure against your leg if necessary.
        Fold and tuck into waistband Tuck the part between the fishtail and the rest of the sari into the waistline. The fishtail should now hang loosely down the front. Adjust so that the fishtail does not drag on the ground or encumber movement, by tucking any extra into the waist. Also adjust so that the right leg is as comfortable as the left leg. As before, tuck the upper border around the side to the center of the back. You know have a draped fishtail sari. The ends of the upper borders should meet at the waistline in the center of the back, forming two layers of sari over the rear end.
        Side note - going to the bathroom The last thing that practice draping will not teach you is... visiting the facilities. This can be done without removing the sari, so long as one is not wearing underwear. Since I have no suggestions of period Indian underwear, and removing the sari for every visit to the loo would be inconvenient at best - I think this technique makes sense. Begin by throwing the fishtail section (the loose part hanging down your front) over your shoulder, so it won't drag on the floor or fall in the toilet. To use the lavatory, or moon innocent passerby - pull the two sides apart horizontally apart. Reach below and pull up the layer underneath. This will probably involve hiking up the ankles slightly, particularly if your sari is tightly draped.

        Afterwards, you'll need to adjust everything back into place. The two sides that you tucked into the waistline at the middle of your back will have gotten pulled out slightly - tuck them back in. Also, everything will be all bunched up from being pulled out of your way. It just needs to be shaken back into place - so drop your dignity for a minute and do something that resembles the hokey pokey - shake it all around. The sari should fall into place pretty easily without any further assistance.

        Check with pictures on www.indiabazaar.net in section "how to wear sari"
    • Re: sari/lengha length questions

      Tue, May 24, 2005 - 10:39 AM
      Thank you for all the fabulous information, including the fishtail sari discussion below. I have one more question. Are Odani and Dupatta the same thing?

      Thanks,
      Rhyolyn
      • Re: sari/lengha length questions

        Tue, May 24, 2005 - 10:47 AM
        your welcome i always like to help about indian clothing and culture...
        well dupatta and odani is same length but not same thing.. dupatta is like scarf for wearing on salwar kameez.. it could be fancy with embroidary but mostly its plain color matching with salwar kameez...
        odani is same length of dupatta but worn on lehenga choli as sari.. most of time its very fancy with trim and embroidary..
        also differnce.. dupatta is only 34" wide.. but odani is 44" wide.. becuase its need full length from your waist to ankle...
        any more question is most welcome
        Ajay
        • Re: sari/lengha length questions

          Tue, May 24, 2005 - 11:32 AM
          That make sense about the difference in width. 34" wrapped around the neck is much more comfortable than 44."
          • Re: sari/lengha length questions

            Wed, May 25, 2005 - 1:19 PM
            Hi!

            I love the "How to wear sari" section on your website - it's SO much clearer than any other one I found online!

            I got one on eBay that came with a "blouse piece" ... you mentioned in another thread how much to cut for the blouse, but how do you wear it? Mine's just a rectangle of matching fabric! Do I use it to make a choli or something?
            • Re: sari/lengha length questions

              Thu, May 26, 2005 - 3:40 AM
              Hello Shirley...
              Thanks to like my webs www.indiabazaar.net and link how to wear sari.. i m still thinking what i need to add.. so pepoles can learn how to use indian wrapes.. i know if you bought sari from ebay or any other store.. all other supplier just blouse fabric.. i wonder why dont they sew blouse and patticoate for customers.. since they live abroad from india.. its no sourse for them to make choli themself.. you have extra blouse piece.. you cant wear as it is.. you need to sew choli.. i will be posting in new week how to make choli.. its might help you.. if you cant find source and send your blouse peace to india. i will sew it for you.. with your measurments. i recently made blouse for shari.. who is in this tribe.. she will reciving the blouse next week . she will tell you how was its fits her.. but next time remeber if you buying any sari or indian clothing.. perfer to shop from india bazaar because we supply free blouse and patticoate sewed with your measurments.. if you still have any question.. i will glad to help you
              Ajay

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